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Old 03-15-2010, 12:01 PM
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What I find laughable is people that think there should only be one opinion...theirs.
Please show where I said that. Its interesting that's the conclusion you arrived at , because you are doing exactly what your accusing me of. I gave ONLY my opinion . If you find that threatening then maybe its time to reconsider yours.
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:13 PM
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I'm relatively certain the practice Estaban is engaging in is called marketing. It happens regularly in a free market place. Caveat emptor and all that common sense stuff your grandpa taught you.
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:18 PM
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Way back when I was a young 'un I did not know a good guitar from a can of tuna. When it came to electrics, I figured the number of pickups determined how good a guitar was.

But I did learn - it seemed to go hand in hand with actually learning how to play the darn thing.

There are a ton of better guitars out there that can be had for $200. And yup, it is funny when some happy purchaser swears that their Esteban Special blows their friend's Martin out of the water. But those folks who are buying Esteban guitars are probably really happy with them. If they keep playing, they too will learn and the purchase of their magical made-by-hand Esteban guitar will become one of those "what was I thinking" things.

If Esteban has a "sin" (other than the whole "El Kabong" thing) it is that he kind of reminds me of the guys who approach you on the street and open their coats to reveal a bunch of Rolex watches they can sell you on the cheap because they don't have to pay overhead or a middleman.

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Old 03-15-2010, 11:01 PM
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Please show where I said that. Its interesting that's the conclusion you arrived at , because you are doing exactly what your accusing me of. I gave ONLY my opinion . If you find that threatening then maybe its time to reconsider yours.
You have acted condesending twords the things I have stated, if that is not being someone with a thought of their own opinion being more important than anyone else, I don't know what is!
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:30 AM
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Sorry you feel that way. Seriously its not healthy for you to have so much angst . Why don't you do something like this and just let it all out?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0oYp...eature=related

And just look at what that big old mean Nasty Esteban did to this poor kid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AaI5...eature=related

Granted he can't play , but he sure looks like he is having fun trying!

Hope that helps Bro.
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:53 AM
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Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6_KT...eature=related

Make your own conclusion.
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:09 AM
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It's too bad they are such crap, I like the looks of the electric guitar he had out, but I wouldn't buy that any sooner than I would one of the acoustics.

http://electronics.hsn.com/esteban-m...787261_xp.aspx

Ditto on this, I like the looks of the electric, half thought about getting one and seeing if I could fix it up to be a decent guitar, but after reading a number of reviews, I realized there was no hope.
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:12 PM
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Sorry you feel that way. Seriously its not healthy for you to have so much angst . Why don't you do something like this and just let it all out?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0oYp...eature=related

And just look at what that big old mean Nasty Esteban did to this poor kid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AaI5...eature=related

Granted he can't play , but he sure looks like he is having fun trying!

Hope that helps Bro.
I like the kid!

As crappy as that guitar probably is, it has to be better than what I started on 43 years ago.
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:44 PM
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I like the kid!

As crappy as that guitar probably is, it has to be better than what I started on 43 years ago.
Yes. And like the guy in the review said (who I thought played and sang pretty decent) Our beginner guitars didn't come with amps , DVDs, picks, chords and strings.
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:22 PM
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I like the kid!

As crappy as that guitar probably is, it has to be better than what I started on 43 years ago.
Lordy - tuners that slipped and action so high you put your hand between the board and the strings. The good old days. Funny thing is though, that some of those P.O.S. mail order catalog guitars we started out with, the ones we could not wait to dump to get a "real" guitar, have become el cheapo chic and are now selling for a pretty penny. Who would have thunk it.
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